I want a home birth....I've given birth a gazillion times in my dreams (babies have come out of me and gone back up into my uterus!) and know that when I'm in pain, the only place I want to be is at home, curled up like a cat, in my own bed.... My husband used to support this idea, until my family got involved and brainwashed him.
My mother, in a very accusatory way, pointed her finger at me and said" if anything happens to MY grandchild, it is all going to be YOUR FAULT....." -- to make matters worse, my dad is a scientist....ever since, my parents have whisked my husband away and told him how irresponsible having a home birth is, etc. and my husband is convinced home births are too dangerous.
Keep in mind, both my husband and I have an incredibly close and loving relationship with my family, who only live 30 minutes away. We all get along so well and hang out together a lot, and this controversy is really the only "issue."
My husband says that's he's the other half of baby-making and I absolutely believe that's true and respect him [he is not the controlling type or anything] and he totally wants the option of all the modern technology in the hospital [he grew up in a country with poverty and few medical options]. I doubt that I can convince my parents of anything, but if it's any consolation, I live in San Francisco and St. Lukes Hospital is 2 blocks away! It's one thing to do this without the support of my family, but I cannot do this without the support of my other half, my husband. We have a great relationship and this is the main thing we 100% disagree on.
My mother, in a very accusatory way, pointed her finger at me and said" if anything happens to MY grandchild, it is all going to be YOUR FAULT....." -- to make matters worse, my dad is a scientist....ever since, my parents have whisked my husband away and told him how irresponsible having a home birth is, etc. and my husband is convinced home births are too dangerous.
Keep in mind, both my husband and I have an incredibly close and loving relationship with my family, who only live 30 minutes away. We all get along so well and hang out together a lot, and this controversy is really the only "issue."
My husband says that's he's the other half of baby-making and I absolutely believe that's true and respect him [he is not the controlling type or anything] and he totally wants the option of all the modern technology in the hospital [he grew up in a country with poverty and few medical options]. I doubt that I can convince my parents of anything, but if it's any consolation, I live in San Francisco and St. Lukes Hospital is 2 blocks away! It's one thing to do this without the support of my family, but I cannot do this without the support of my other half, my husband. We have a great relationship and this is the main thing we 100% disagree on.
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Re: How do I convince my husband and family???
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 6:05 PMHey, if you end up having any use for Modern Technology, by which they mean big machines-that-go-Ping!, you'll go to the hospital.
If (when!) your labor turns out to be completely normal, and your midwife affirms that heart tones are good and the baby's positioned well... you'll just give birth where you want to be- at home all warm and cozy with no strangers poking at you with needles and fingers. Most everyone knows you shouldn't go to the hospital too early in labor. And YOU get to decide how early is too early. I've been lucky enough not to go to the hospital until we decide to check in with the pediatrician weeks after our babes were born :)
I love the book Gentle Birth Choices by Barbara Harper.
It's a very friendly, calm introduction to birth basics. I see it as a homebirth manifesto disguised as a primer on choosing your birth place.
Maybe the best part is Chapter 3, Dispelling the Medical Myths.
Myths like
-hospital is best
-only MDs can handle things
-constant monitoring in necessary
-birth must be sterile
-drugs won't hurt the baby
Get kindly blown out of the water. If you can get your loved ones to read this book, it should really help their outlook.
Though now that I'm writing, my gut says the first path to take is the emotional one.
I've seen some lovely photo montages of homebirths, set to music, online. They always make me weepy and want another baby.
If those who are frightened can get that little glimpse of the peace and joy of homebirth, that's worth all the facts and figures in the world.
Here's a lovely one, with facts about homebirth interspersed. It's a little graphic, but ya gotta watch it.
www.onetruemedia.com/otm_sit...w_shared
There's an amazing one of a baby born named Jude Roman Fairbanks, but it's not up right now...
Peace to you and yours- Good Luck!!!!
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Re: How do I convince my husband and family???
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:57 PM>>>It's one thing to do this without the support of my family, but I cannot do this without the support of my other half, my husband. We have a great relationship and this is the main thing we 100% disagree on.<<<
but how can you do it without the support of YOU, in a way other than how YOU want to do it and feel guided to do it? maybe this is a situation where hubby should get a lot of say. but i also think before providing such heavy handed input, he should be doing a whole lot more research than listening to your anxious family. and i don't think he should get final say. it's your wisdom (and your midwife's?) that will pull you through childbirth. not his.
there is ample evidence that in a healthy pregnancy, birth at home is SAFER than hospital birth. he owes you, before taking you off course, to begin educating himself about this stuff. especially with a hospital so near by! -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 12:27 AMEducate your parents for they live out of fear. -
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Re: How do I convince my husband and family???
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:14 AMMost of us only have to go back two or three generations to when our families were still in the old country and realize that our grandmothers and great-grandmothers had loads of children without hospital intervention. My great-grandmother had 13 children while living on a tiny island off the coast of rural Ireland. As far as I know all of the children made it full term. I would love to go back to that time to see the community of women and mothers pulling together around the birth. Wow, how far we have become removed from our ancestral gifts.
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Re: How do I convince my husband and family???
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:04 AMit's true that your husband is half of the baby-making crew, but the only one birthing that baby is you! what was his job? coming? oh jeez, that's hard work.
seriously though, you are the keeper of your birth. your are the most recent in a long line of women who have given birth successfully. i prefer not to listen to all that "babies used to die all the time when people were living in log cabins/caves/trees". to that, i reply, babies die all the time NOW, even WITH our "magnificent technology". if hospital birth is soooooo much safer, why is our mortality rate so high? look at the stats, weigh your options, when the time comes, you have the right to birth your baby in the safest environment in which you feel comfortable. if that means locking yourself & your midwife in the master bathroom, while you tune out your frantic family pounding on the door, then so be it. i hope, for your sake, that won't be the case, but it's certainly an option.
also, it's REALLY unfair & uncool for your mom to lay such a heavy guilt trip on you. does she think you're not concerned for your child's welfare? i would hate for you to be pressured thru the rest of your pregnancy & end up being so tightly wound that, when the baby comes, you submit to going to the hospital, "fail to progress" and have your belly cut open. what would your mother say about that? -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 8:02 PMI really have to strongly agree with Ix-chel that your mom is WAY out of line laying this heavy handed crap on you, especially in light of you saying you normally have a very good relationship with them. Think you can find out what the root of *her* problem with this is?
Also, if your dad's a scientist, you can show him the cold, hard statistics- home births have the same incidence (or lower, not sure) of neonatal mortality as hospital births, and definitely have lower morbidities.
And, as they said is Stone Soup "There is no 'we' in crowning!" Hubby needs to meet you halfway and look into it more.
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Re: How do I convince my husband and family???
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:27 AMHave him watch "the business of being born" documentary by Rikki Lake...it's really good and eye opening! -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 9:10 AMYess-- definitely watch the Business of Being Born and "What Babies Want".... Both are beautifully and powerfully done.
I have read about 6 books about natural childbirth and the American hospital maternity statistics are staggering (not to mention incredibly sad and scary).
It appears that the American medical model of childbirth has become nothing more than a *for-profit industry* that believes that a woman's body is faulty, defective and completely incapable of giving birth without medical intervention. The c-section rate is over 30% in American hospitals today.
Seeing as how millions and millions of women around the world have been successfully giving birth for thousands of years without a hospital says that women were built and perfectly designed to give birth without the medical cascade of interventions, interuptions, dangerous drugs, chemicals, narcotics, major abdomical surgeries, episiotomies, fetal moniters, forceps,.vacuum extractors, etc.
America is such a fear based society. It is so sad to see how this is affecting our unborn and newly born children.
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Re: How do I convince my husband and family???
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 8:49 PMhomebirth is safer.
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Re: How do I convince my husband and family??? Give them info, and tell them you're committed to it. Period.
Thu, May 15, 2008 - 6:47 AMHere's a study from the BMJ for your pop- a study of 5400 planned homebirths.
Better outcomes than planned low risk hospital births.
My daughter's birth was included in this study. She was 10lb, 8 oz. with a 15" head. I didn't tear, though she was my first baby. Her Apgars were 9 and 10. It was a difficult birth, but her heart rate sounded fine the whole time, so we stuck it out and I'm so glad we did. When doctors hear my birth story, they tell me I would have had a c-section if I'd been in the hospital, and also admit that it would have been unnecessary.
No interventions= no complications! Hooray for midwives!
Outcomes of planned home births with certified professional midwives: large prospective study in North America
bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/cont...7505/1416
Here's an article about the study. More pleasant and a quicker read:
Study: Low-Risk Home Births Found Safe
www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/P...tb1/1204
And here's a giant collection of homebirth resources:
(it's in thread form, just scroll down till you see links)
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 5:10 PMHere's another recent study that's easy to understand: health.utah.gov/opha/publi...meBirth.pdf
FWIW, my husband was not on board when I first entertained the idea of home birth. Now he tells people that the midwife is the only person that will touch his children before him. Also, he has brought up the possibility of UC all on his own. He has turned into a believer if that makes you feel any better. -
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Re: How do I convince my husband and family??? Give them info, and tell them you're committed to it. Period.
Thu, May 22, 2008 - 9:06 AMI just watched the Business of Being Born again yesterday.....
This documentary is SO incredibly powerful, educational and beautifully done.
If only every woman (and family) for that matter could see this.......... perhaps it could actually turn things back from this medical birth model insanity that has been going on in the US for way too long now.
I am inspired to become a gentle and natural birth activist!!
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Re: How do I convince my husband and family???
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 9:38 AMI'm so sorry to hear this. I am sorry you are in a position that is uncomfortable. I understand what you are feeling. My Mom and I had it out about this very thing when I was about 10 weeks pregnant.
Since then, I have learned that there are some of the best birthing centers in the Bay Area and particularly SF if you choose to take a middle road and go there. I basically decided that I had to stop having this discussion with the family members and only have it between me and my husband. Our mothers do not know that I will not have them at the birth and I decided not to bring it up til the time gets closer. Being pregnant has taught me that I am not required to share any details with others unless I want to. they can stay in the unknown and wonder, because it has zero bearing on them. I believe this is a decision to be made amongst me, my huband, the baby and god. everyone else can sit back and support or not, our decision and I am not willing to discuss it any further.
Business of being born,
Ina May's books, especially Spiritual Midwifery,
Birthing from Within
Gentle Birth Choices
These all validate making choices that support the woman and baby being empowered through this experience.
I refuse to do anything that I am uncomfortable with on a values-level. I have a value to do things wholistically and organically as it relates to birthing this child..and anyone that doesnt support my/our wishes can make themselves unavailable during the experience if they wish.
I would ignore your mother's comment, as painful as it was to hear that, or simply say "thanks for sharing your opinion" and don't take it on as something you need to deal with. that is her issue, wherever that comment is coming from, something unresolved in her past.
you and your husband are fully empowered to make these choices for yourselves. The Birthing from Within journal that can be purchased along with the book has great exercises that maybe yo uand your husband can participate in together to really see what is at the root of his fears and thinking around home vs. hospital birth. he might surprise himself to discover that some of those thoughts aren't even his, but environmental influences he grew up within.
Best wishes to you. I hope you trust yourself and believe in your own wisdom to do what feels right to you. -
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Fri, June 6, 2008 - 9:26 AMThanks for all the suggestions... I think I will rent "the business of being born" when it's out on DVD.... i realize that as much as I love my family, the only person I need to "convince" is my husband -- that takes off a lot of pressure ... even though I have been married for several years, I am so deeply connected to the rest of my family I think because I am still so young, but I am learning to detach just enough to make important decisions affecting the lives of my new family. Thank you everyone! -
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Sun, June 8, 2008 - 7:52 PMDon't rent it! You can watch it for free here: bestdocumentaries.blogspot.com/20...tml -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 4:37 AMI also remember getting a card at the Gentle Births World Conference with Barbara Harper last fall that said something like, "There are 40 countries in the world in which it is safer to give birth than in the US". And you can bet that number is so astounding NOT because of the small percentage of conscious people who choose to give birth at home with midwives!
I definitely agree with the previous postings that home birth is safer, you know it in your heart and bones and if your family only knew what a slippery slope the hospital room can be (but is not always) to unnecessary interventions than they would support you 100% if they knew how damaging these interventions can be on their grandchild.
You can do this. Your husband can support you through this. Your family, once they get over their fear, can do this. We all believe in you.
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